ABC Radio National reporter Claire Nichols attended the Outback Carbon Farming Conference and spoke to pastoralist Jason Hastie as part of a report on the future of WA's rangelands. 

Click to hear the full story, which also includes interviews with WA Minister for Lands Terry Redman, David Mackenzie from Pew Charitable Trusts, and the Pastoralist and Graziers Association WA President Tony Seabrook.